73: Hangzhou Ma She battles against a group of heroes

"Our duty at Alibaba is to help those with ideals realize their dreams."

"Regardless of how much wealth you have acquired."

"If you find that the air around you is poor, your water is not drinkable, and your food is unsafe, then becoming wealthy has no meaning at all."

"What is the point of your Red Star Mobile Phone being so good?"

This Old Ma of Hangzhou really loves to lecture others.

These words immediately elevated his own standing. He was implying, "Chen Chen, you say you have dreams, right? Well, we at Alibaba exist specifically to help people realize their dreams."

"So, Chen Chen, don't try to latch onto us at Alibaba."

"We aren't even on the same level, okay?"

"Can you, Chen Chen, even compare?"

However, Chen Chen seized upon a loophole in this statement and retorted directly to Old Ma of Hangzhou.

"Since you, Mr. Ma, say that Alibaba exists to help those with ideals realize them,"

"then will you help Red Star?"

Old Ma of Hangzhou realized he had misspoken. Facing Chen Chen's retort, he quickly gathered his thoughts to cover up:

"Uh, I think regarding helping Red Star... well, Red Star no longer needs our help. They are already one of the top three mobile phone manufacturers in the country; they don't need help from Alibaba."

"Actually, Alibaba's entire business model is based on the hope of helping those with small ideas—people who have such concepts—to grow."

Hmph, this Old Ma of Hangzhou is quite the smooth talker. Doesn't this long-winded explanation mean the same thing as before? It's just more rigorous now.

Experiencing such an occasion for the first time, Chen Chen couldn't help but brace himself with 120% of his focus.

Old Ma of Hangzhou looked at Chen Chen. After ensuring his answer was airtight, he immediately launched an attack on Chen Chen: "I see people like Chen Chen and Lei Jun—everyone is imagining the future, which is great."

"Personally, I feel my duty is to help those who cannot imagine the future, or those who want to imagine the future, by building an ecosystem."

"To be able to help them rise."

Chen Chen understood what Old Ma of Hangzhou meant. Wasn't he just trying to say that he helps everyone make money, while Chen Chen only knows how to bury his head and build phones?

Before Chen Chen could pick up the microphone to retort, Old Ma of Hangzhou unleashed another top-tier humblebrag.

"Therefore, I have no interest in money. Things like tens of billions or hundreds of billions—to me, they have no meaning."

"What is the point of having so much money? I am not as young as Chen Chen, wanting to change phones every day, wearing this and that."

"Whoever wants to change phones or wear those things is fine. My duty is to help those who see more people; that is where my joy lies."

"Perhaps we are even better at spending money than the government."

One word: Arrogant!

Two words: Way too arrogant!

This act of elevating himself while stepping on others was played to perfection. He belittled Red Star until it was almost worthless, implying that without him, no one in China would know how to do business.

Just then, Lei Jun, who couldn't stand Old Ma of Hangzhou's condescending attitude, spoke up.

"Chen Chen and I are both mobile phone manufacturers. Who are you trying to insult? Who do you think you are?"

"You say Chen Chen only knows how to bury his head and make phones; isn't that insulting me, Lei Jun, as well?"

"Damn it, when I was already successful, you were still running pyramid schemes!"

"Old Ma of Hangzhou says that having too much money is a burden. Actually, having too many opportunities is also a burden."

"Every day, I get up very early. I might wake up after five o'clock. I'm very anxious. What am I anxious about?"

"I'm anxious because there are too many opportunities. I can't do them all. I must decide which opportunities to give up and instead focus on doing things I am truly good at and enjoy."

"Just like us at Xiaomi. We only focus on making mobile phones, so that millions and millions of people can use high-quality, affordable phones."

Seeing Lei Jun jump out, a flash of inexplicable excitement crossed Old Ma of Hangzhou's face.

Back in the day, I was just a nobody standing in the background. You, Lei Jun, wouldn't even look at me properly back then. Now, I'll let you see who the real big brother is.

You ignored me yesterday; today, I am out of your reach!

"As for Lei Jun's question just now, I find it quite funny."

"Actually, when we figure out what we want, what we have, and what we are giving up, there really aren't that many opportunities."

Seeing such an interesting situation, Dongge from JD.com, who had been sitting on the side, was holding back laughter. But seeing Old Ma of Hangzhou's condescending attitude, he really couldn't help but chime in:

"I think I should be barefoot today. Because Old Ma of Hangzhou is here, some competition is of course inevitable, but the business models we have built are completely different."

Seeing Dongge also wading into these muddy waters, Old Ma of Hangzhou became even more excited.

Old Ma of Hangzhou had always remembered what Dongge said last year.

Previously, when Dongge was interviewed, he said that when Ma Yun claimed, "I have over 7 million sellers on Taobao," he was bragging—and bragging to the point where he should be embarrassed, the kind that's shameful to even say. Isn't that just a liar deceiving people?

Although this was the first meeting between Old Ma of Hangzhou and Dongge, Old Ma of Hangzhou fired up all his firepower and retorted directly:

"What Qiangdong said just now is actually very correct. Our two companies' models are different. We are not an e-commerce company; we are a company that helps others do e-commerce."

Seeing that there was finally a gap in the exchange between these big shots, Chen Chen immediately picked up the microphone and began to counterattack Old Ma of Hangzhou:

"The mobile internet we enjoy today is brought to us by smartphones."

"That is why Old Ma of Hangzhou is so excited that over forty percent of his Tmall transaction volume is brought by mobile phones."

"Therefore, no matter how beautiful our ideals are, we need to be down-to-earth, step by step. Our society today has various difficulties and problems."

"For me, I particularly agree with Mr. Lei Jun's point of view, which is to find something that genuinely helps this society."

"Regardless of whether people's abilities are high or low, we should truly do it well."

It was smartphones that drove the development of the mobile internet, allowing everyone to enjoy the convenience of internet life. As one of the top five global manufacturers, Red Star is naturally the domestic leader. Our status is self-evident.

Your, Old Ma of Hangzhou's, Tmall mobile sales account for less than half, yet you are as excited as a little kid.

Didn't you say you weren't interested in money? Why are you putting on such a high-and-mighty act?

You just spout empty words and try to gild your own lily. Do I, Chen Chen, not know what kind of person you are?

Among all the big shots present, you, Old Ma of Hangzhou, were the first to run away.

Although Old Ma of Hangzhou continued to preach his grand theories, Chen Chen simply put down the microphone and said nothing.

I originally wanted to take a jab at Fruit in front of the Fruit vice president, but you, Old Ma of Hangzhou, sitting in the middle and acting like it's your home court, criticizing this one and attacking that one.

Just wait. When I go back, I'll crush your YunOS and Hornet, and by the way, increase support for Pinduoduo. When my short-video e-commerce platform comes out, you, Old Ma, will have reason to panic.

Anyway, I, Chen Chen, own quite a few shares in Pinduoduo.

Go ahead and put on an act, Old Ma of Hangzhou, keep being arrogant.

Thirty years in the east, thirty years in the west.

If I had known this shitty meeting would be like this, I wouldn't have come at all.

Zhang Chaoyang: So annoying, when will it be my turn to sing?